That's the beautiful thing about mixing up all these styles. I had the break, looped it up, slapped some beats on it and it was done. The next day, on my way back to the studio, someone had graffitied the door up, and the artist's name was 'Sketch', so I thought that sounded like a wicked name for this track. In the studio they had this room upstairs which no one used, so they let me go up there and open the window, it was summer, and I'd get my pad out and have a little smoke and write lyrics to a backing track on a cassette in the sunshine.
Sat there in the sunshine with a wicked beat going. Then you'd mess about with a bass sound and get a bassline going. I started writing a rap for Album) but it didn't work, so I started singing it.
The track was about the karma coming back to get people, because you can't get away from history. You can't make it fade away. I was sitting down looking for a different way of getting the vocal out of the lyrics that I had written.
Nick had a vibe on a break, and we got Owen to do some live drumming over the top, which we made a bigger feature out of. We'd be sitting around thinking what to do with the track, vocally, because the beat had such a nice groove and a cool little atmosphere to it. Nick suggested working on one little phrase rather than a full set of lyrics, and saying it over the track a few times. This track Album) a little experiment. It crossed a lot of borders and went into a lot of different Album).
Lots of different kinds of people came up to us and said they loved the track. I think it appealed to a lot of people of all different persuasions. You'd hear it in raves, gay clubs, Jamaican Blues parties. For us it was song celebrating our relationships at Step It Up - Stereo MCs - Connected (Cassette time. We accidentally made a song about love [laughs], and the beauty of having a physical relationship with a woman.
I didn't think about it at the time. The '80s were so vacuous until groups like Public Enemy came along. Music should fucking say something. Playing With Fire was made on the front line where we were living at the time. You could Album) out and buy any drugs you wanted. We'd had first-hand experiences of seeing people get fucked up on drugs. This track was my personal experiences of people fucking up and people selling it down our road.
We already had something working. Then I went to my man in Camden and got a wicked break off an old 7". The track just took off in a new direction then. It was firing then! Back then people were really feeling positivity, now it's all a bit cynical, people are negative about being positive, if you know what I mean.
I think when I collected the b-sdes on a tape I also included the slow version of Fade Away from the Help compilation. Similar story, first album passed me by. Then I heard Slide Away and thought "interesting". Heard Morning Glory track in Bournemouth University student bar, blown away.
Mind you, if they'd released anything else off Morning Glory than Roll With It there would have been no contest. Went into a chippie the other day, Liam Gallagher was serving. Asked for fish and chips, he said, "Do you want a roll with it? I was a big fan of the Traveling Wilburys and that sound was still evident on this track. Over the years, this became an anthem for me that added more steel to my resolve.
Read yourself some Maslow. You want magic? Listen to this album. Show me. There are so many intersections between psychology, humanity and magic… Rush is a band of geniuses. This song came out and it was awesome. Damn, I love this song. Before nuMetal was a thing, there was Faith No More. They were ahem The Real Thing. Respect it, or it will crush you.
Even now, when I think about a theme song for kicking ass, this is the song that pops in my head. I saw Tesla at the Vic in Chicago inlong after their expiration date and they still were on a slip trip and ready to kick ass. Never got into Pantera in high school. Step It Up - Stereo MCs - Connected (Cassette friends did.
No one knows this song off of Empire. All that is an aside though to the song: it just kicks ass. I became a much bigger fan of Tears for Fears as an adult as I became of the Smiths, Crowded House and other more introspective bands of the New Wave and post-modern era.
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